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New Dawn Rose6 Jul '05 5:22 am
I hope some one can advise me as to what to do about a New Dawn Rose, that is supposed to be a vigorous grower.. I purchased it a couple of months ago, planted it in a corner by the fence. The soil had already been amended with Mushroom Manure. While the corner gets some morning sun, and other plants nearby are doing well. This rose is just sitting there, doing nothing.. Not a sign of new growth.. Any advice? Oh Yes, The garden has an east-west alignment and the rose is planted in the south -west corner
ps I live in British Columbia, Canada. ..
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Bex
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Camberwell, London
New Dawn Rose problems6 Jul '05 10:16 am
Hi and welcome to the forums
Moosey hasn't had much luck with her New Dawn rose either, despite it's good credentials.
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thanks6 Jul '05 10:36 am
Thanks Moosey I get I shall just have to cut my losses with that rose then.. Oh well I do have my lovely Josephs Coat climber. My all time favorite rose.. and it always does well for me.. Guess I should stick with the old tried and true..  |
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moosey
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8 Jul '05 11:12 am
Aargh! New Dawn! I have to confess that I have totally lost faith in this rose, but e.g. I don't spray it. For me it just wasn't healthy enough.
It should grow upwards and outwards with ease, though - perhaps you need to get it through to its second summer in the ground to see this.
I haven't got a Joseph's Coat - it's a rose I've always liked the name of! I'll check it out.
Good luck with that New Dawn!
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another day, another rose
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New Dawn Rose31 Oct '05 8:33 pm
Maybe "new Dawn" is better in warmer climates? I live in Sydney and have planted two "New Dawn" two months ago (yes, a little late for bare rooted roses, I know!!). One gets sun nearly all day, the other just a couple hours of morning sun, then filtered sun for about 4 hours. Both roses have more than doubled in size, and have bloomed. The one in partial shade has lots of buds on it. It is gorgeous. I got these roses from Hedgerow mail order nursery, and I have to say that out of the 70 or so roses I have planted this year the ones from this nursery are fantastic - a lot are grown on their own roots - such robust plants from such little sticks when I opened the delivery!! |
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another day, another rose
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New Dawn Rose31 Oct '05 8:34 pm
Maybe "new Dawn" is better in warmer climates? I live in Sydney and have planted two "New Dawn" two months ago (yes, a little late for bare rooted roses, I know!!). One gets sun nearly all day, the other just a couple hours of morning sun, then filtered sun for about 4 hours. Both roses have more than doubled in size, and have bloomed. The one in partial shade has lots of buds on it. It is gorgeous. I got these roses from Hedgerow mail order nursery, and I have to say that out of the 70 or so roses I have planted this year the ones from this nursery are fantastic - a lot are grown on their own roots - such robust plants from such little sticks when I opened the delivery!! |
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moosey
head gardener
6 Nov '05 6:43 am
New Dawn has always got extremely 'good press' regarding its health and clean green image (except from me, oops). I suspect that my problems are due to a general lack of a fungal spraying programme. Do you grow the biggish, stiff Dublin Bay? Another rose which rusts badly for me. And gets anything else that's possibly going around. beautifully formed black spots, etc. Add to that a complete lack of fragrance. Hmm... Where's my shovel? |
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another day, another rose
helper
7 Nov '05 9:52 am
no,I don't grow Dublin Bay - generally not a rose that appeals to me that much - just as well by the sound of it!!! I do, however like the pink Bantry Bay and grow it successfully! I don't hesitate to grab the shovel for those roses which don't perform. They maybe worthy varieties for some climates etc, but if they don't work for me they are out. There haven't been too many but Maigold is one which I have just dug out after a few years of watching some pretty yellow flowers be overtaken by raging black spot. I don't spray, except for lime sulphur at pruning time. Small outbreaks of black spot are ok (I just destroy the offending leaves and up the seaweed spray) and mildew is dealt with purely with diluted milk. So, no troublesome rose gets a spot in my garden. I have even banished the exquisite Julia's Rose, because it is too, too fussy. |
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another day, another rose
helper
7 Nov '05 9:53 am
no,I don't grow Dublin Bay - generally not a rose that appeals to me that much - just as well by the sound of it!!! I do, however like the pink Bantry Bay and grow it successfully! I don't hesitate to grab the shovel for those roses which don't perform. They maybe worthy varieties for some climates etc, but if they don't work for me they are out. There haven't been too many but Maigold is one which I have just dug out after a few years of watching some pretty yellow flowers be overtaken by raging black spot. I don't spray, except for lime sulphur at pruning time. Small outbreaks of black spot are ok (I just destroy the offending leaves and up the seaweed spray) and mildew is dealt with purely with diluted milk. So, no troublesome rose gets a spot in my garden. I have even banished the exquisite Julia's Rose, because it is too, too fussy. |
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New Dawn Rose9 Nov '05 6:57 am
I had a New Dawn Climber in SW Louisiana before evacuating and relocating from Hurricane Rita. It was quite vigorous there. I liked everything about it except the thorns!
I am now in North Texas, and am unsure whether the New Dawn will perform here, as North Texas is in the midst of a drought, and has heavy clay soil.
Can any one recommend a climber for those conditions? I have seen a "Joseph's Coat"..I liked it, but prefer the dusky pink. |
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